Showing posts with label Two Face. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Two Face. Show all posts

Monday, July 21, 2025

Guest column: In Defense of Tommy Lee Jones Two-Face

Hey, everyone. I got sent an email recently from a reader - Dave - who had a great take on Tommy Lee Jones' often maligned portrayal of Two Face. I've reprinted here as this week's post. Hope you enjoy his take...




Two-Face in Batman Forever is a good interpretation of the character.


I know what you are thinking. I am completely out of my mind. You are thinking Tommy Lee Jones Two-Face is not only the worst character in a Batman film but quite possibly one of the worst characters in a piece of fiction ever. You are thinking TLJ as Two-Face is ironically the most one dimensional character with absolutely no depth. He is a cackling buffoon and just a Joker wannabe.


I will address the two (pun intended) biggest criticisms of TLJ Two-Face while also comparing him to Aaron Eckhart's Two-Face in The Dark Knight, an interpretation generally held in high regard.


Criticism #1: We only see TLJ Two-Face's bad side and never see his good side.


Two-Face is a villain through and through. He is not meant to be half bad and half good. He is a villain needing his coin to make key decisions in the commission of his crimes. When Eckhart becomes Two-Face, he is on a singular mission, to avenge the death of Rachel. He never pauses and wonders (good side) if what he is doing is wrong. There is never a good side. Heck, even when the coin lands good side up, when Eckhart Two-Face is questioning Ramirez, he still strikes her!


TLJ Two-Face is on a singular mission as well, to kill Batman. It is true, we never see a good side with TLJ Two-Face but we didn't see a good side with Eckhart Two-Face either. At least, however, with TLJ Two-Face we see the number 2 used during the commission of his crimes. The second bank of Gotham on the second anniversary of the day he was captured, two hundred sticks of TNT with a two minute timer and a two part plan at the NygmaTech party. One of the core concepts of this character is completely missing in TDK.


The point can be argued that Two-Face is not meant to be half good and half bad but meant to be half rational and half irrational. This form of duality is missing in both Forever and TDK since they are so singular in their missions. There is a lack of any kind of duality in Eckhart Two-Face. However, there is, believe it or not, a duality that exists within TLJ Two-Face. I will address the existence of that duality in Forever and the lack of duality in TDK further down.


Criticism #2: TLJ Two-Face is a cackling buffoon and just a Joker wannabe.


It is true, TLJ Two-Face, at times, cackles and laughs maniacally. He also, at times, displays anger, frustration and impatience. In other words, he is emotionally unstable throughout the film. This is a key component to his character and where his duality is demonstrated. The most important line that defines TLJ Two-Face comes at the end when he says, "emotion is always the enemy of true justice". TLJ Two-Face's singular mission is obtaining true justice which comes in the form of killing Batman. His entire being, existence and drive as Two-Face is obtaining this true justice.


TLJ Two-Face, however, can never obtain this true justice because of how emotionally unstable he is (demonstrated by the laughing, anger, frustration and impatience). The Riddler even says to him, "has anyone ever told you, you have a serious impulse control problem?" TLJ Two-Face is the living embodiment of the yin and yang, two diametrically opposite forces pushing against each other. The pursuit of true justice coming at odds with emotional instability. This is where the duality lies within TLJ Two-Face.


"Emotion is always the enemy of true justice". Enemy, as defined by Oxford Languages, is a person who is actively opposed or hostile to someone or something. The key word here is opposed. Emotion is in opposition of true justice. Emotion and the pursuit of true justice are two forces colliding against each other thus creating this duality.


TLJ Two-Face is doomed to never obtain his true justice but instead always be sabotaging himself because he is overrun by his own emotions. His impatience at the NygmaTech party almost ruined Edward Nygma's plan which in the end would have fulfilled his mission. He even defers to an emotion at Wayne Manor, opting not to kill Bruce Wayne/Batman, once again sabotaging himself. He instead defers to the feeling of the satisfaction of humiliating and crushing Bruce Wayne/Batman first rather than outright killing him.


You might be thinking, well, what about the part where TLJ Two-Face is sitting in Wayne Manor flipping the coin over and over. Surely, this demonstrates a complete misunderstanding of the character. Once again, TLJ Two-Face sabotages himself with his emotions. Upon entering the manor, the Riddler says to TLJ Two-Face, "no killing". But TLJ Two-Face immediately grows impatient and begins flipping the coin.


However, he doesn't flip the coin over and over until he gets his desired result. He flips the coin three times: once for Chase, once for Bruce and once for Batman. It was a "cheating" tactic to kill Batman (two flips for his dual identities). Eckhart Two-Face employed this "cheating" tactic as well, flipping the coin twice at a chance to kill Sal Maroni. One flip of the coin for Sal, the second flip of the coin for the driver. Since Eckhart Two-Face wore his seat belt and Sal did not, Sal is killed in the ensuing car accident.


Batman Forever Wiki states that in the aforementioned manor scene, TLJ Two-Face flipped his coin three times: once for Alfred, once for Chase and once for Bruce. This is not how I interpret that scene. However, either way, TLJ Two-Face is not going against character and is not randomly flipping the coin over and over until he gets his desired result.


Now we can see where the duality exists within TLJ Two-Face, the pursuit of true justice vs. emotion. There is no sense of duality within Eckhart Two-Face though. It is essentially Harvey Dent going on a killing spree while using a coin to decide his victim's fates. Yet this version of Two-Face is well regarded and the other is not. There is no question that if TLJ Two-Face didn't ever cackle or laugh that it would improve the perception of his character. But those are emotions that actually play into his duality which I have explained up above.


And all this is why ultimately, I believe TLJ Two-Face is a good interpretation of the character: a form of duality is present, the coin is used in his decision making and the number 2 is used in the commission of his crimes.


Duality is a theme in this film and is present in not only TLJ Two-Face but in all of the major characters. Furthermore, the tone of the film itself is a testament to duality. It is a film split right down the center. It balances the dark elements of the main character and the examination of his trauma with moments of camp and over the top performances. Through its duality, Batman Forever is able to honor the character's entire history with various nods, homages and inspirations from the comic books to the 1966 show to the graphic novel The Dark Knight Returns to the 1992 animated series.


As an aside I would like to point out the overarching "doomed forever" tragedy, for lack of a better phrase, in this film. Two-Face was doomed forever to never obtain his true justice because of his emotions. The Riddler is doomed forever to just be a person with no real identity stuck in a small space. He starts the film working in a small station and living in a small, narrow apartment. His whole identity is completely tied to a person who he idolizes and wants recognition from. He ends the film in a small padded room at the end of a narrow corridor with no sense of identity and believing he is someone else. Ironically, believing he is the person who he wanted recognition from the most. Not to mention, the Riddler suit on display before being worn, foreshadowing Nygma's fate, forever stuck in a small space.


Chase is doomed forever to fall for the wrong kind of man. Even when she chose Bruce over Batman, not knowing they were the same person, she doomed herself to be in a relationship that will never work. Despite her best effort and recognizing, "a girl has to grow up some time", she still picks the wrong man. Bruce is the wrong kind of man because of the dual life he lives. We have seen over and over that relationships with Bruce never work out.


The tragedies with Bruce and Dick of course are the loss of their families. Bruce choosing to be Batman forever to make up for his loss, and Robin going down the same path.

Monday, April 7, 2025

Batman Forever Merchandise Review - Two Face figure from McFarlane

So now we come to my favourite figure of the McFarlane Batman Forever line - Two Face.

Although it's not a perfect likeness to Tommy Lee Jones it's got a great expressive face and I love that they've done the coin flipping in his hand.

The costume is well captured. Sure there's a couple of bits of silver paint missing but they aren't huge. It will only take me a few minutes with a chrome pen to put the three metal bits on the glove and a steel toe cap on the right shoe.

The only real blunder is that the figures has no guns! I believe that this is a recent edict by DC Comics that action figures based on their characters (even those ones made for adult collectors) should not have any guns. As a result you're going to have to find your own weapons for this figure.

My suggestion however is to make a tiny newspaper to put in his hand. Here's the link to the jpeg / pdf.

Sunday, February 18, 2024

Batman Forever Merchandise Review - Riddler and Two Face figures from Kenner

Given that Riddler and Two Face are partners in crime in Batman Forever, it makes sense that Kenner made a double pack of figures.

These are basically just repaints of existing figures. The Riddler has a new head sculpt but other than that they aren't any different.

Two Face comes with a gold gun accessory that annoyingly my one is missing. It's based on the gun he uses to blow up the gas line and bury Batman in the subway.

These are definitely good value and perfect if you just want the most movie accurate versions of the two villains.


Friday, October 28, 2022

Batman Forever Merchandise Review - Cosbaby Riddler and Two Face set from Hot Toys

In the last few years there's been quite a few NEW Batman Forever figures released which is awesome for a 27 year old movie that isn't - shall we say - universally beloved.

While we wait for the Hot Toys and Prime 1 Studio figures (the jury is still out if I can afford those eye watering prices) I'm happy to see these more affordable Cosbaby figures.

I know everyone is not a fan of these Japanese-style SD figures but I find them cute and fun. 

The Cosbaby line is smaller than the Funko Pop line but they are also more detailed. I particularly love the coin in Two Face's hand which looks like it's mid flip. And it is nice to have actual eyes rather than those giant white dots that Funko figures have.

I think the Batman and Robin set were a little more interesting with their metallic sheen but the Riddler and Two Face set are pretty cool too.

The price was about £40ish a year ago but it's coming down. If you scope around on eBay you might be able to find one of the sets for closer to £20.

Friday, March 18, 2022

Batman Forever Merchandise Review - 12" Cold Cast Two Face statue from Applause

After what feels like a lot of searching I finally tracked down a Two Face Applause statue to go with my other three. 

It's a pretty great sculpt and - for Applause - not a terrible paint job. There's a few things that could have been better (like the black glove which should have been a fingerless glove) but it's nothing a quick custom paint job wouldn't fix.

If you can find these for a decent price (under £30) I would recommend these. They are pretty great.

Friday, September 10, 2021

Batman Forever Merchandise Review - Figure mugs (and more)

This week we're looking at the last few Batman Forever mugs and glasses that I own. Not quite sure how I ended up with so many of these but they're kinda fun. Just the same old problems with them being Applause, the paint application is a little sloppy. As I say in the video I'm 99% sure they didn't make a Riddler mug in this style but if anyone knows better let me know. 


Friday, June 4, 2021

Batman Forever Style Guide - Part 4

Here's the last part of posts showing the best bits of the Batman Forever Style Guide.

To see the full guide click here.

This part is particularly interesting because the last few images are something called "Forever Kids" which was an attempt to make illustrations suitable for under 5s. It looks a lot like the Animated Series.

There's also a bunch of product concept ideas which were never made like Batman rollerskates, umbrellas, waistcoats and more.





















Friday, May 28, 2021